I thought that was the universal sign for surrender. Certainly, everyone at the IC surrendered time, money, and brainpower in order to attend that mess.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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Chautauqua Salute makes a comeback at the Indianapolis Regional convention 7/13/14
by dropoffyourkeylee inas the regional convention ended in indianapolis, mark sanderson invited all the international delegates to come out onto the field for the final song.
as they walked out, they all held a white handkerchief aloft as they waved.
some in the audience waved a white cloth in return.
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Modern JW Org
by Infowarrior inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqru9keiw4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsfyfiyzgg.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Stuff like this is only for the sake of trying to make the International Crapventions a little more "special."
When I went, it was to foreign capitals where there was lots of other "worldly" stuff to do. I could actually make an interesting vacation out of these. But an IC in Atlanta or Detroit? Ugh. The sheeple would have to fly somewhere else to have fun. So instead, the foreigners are "privileged" to this type of JW entertainment. Such a waste of vacation time and hard-earned money for these travellers.
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What is this latest letter from the GB about?
by stuckinarut2 inwe have been told this week that all in the elder and ms body will be read a letter from the gb about "make this the greatest month of activity ever"..... has anyone else had such a letter read out in their cong / servant body?.
i presume it will be all about "recommending strongly/insisting" that all these men should pioneer for the month?.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Are they doing the 30 hour aux. pio.? Or have they brought it down to 15 hour aux. pio. yet?
So they reach some new highs in their statistics next month, so what? When the Titanic was sinking the stern of that ship achieved heights it had never reached before!
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Do GB members poop?
by Magnum indo gb members poop?.
the question arises because of the great similarities i see between jw land and n korea.
for one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; its one way from the top down.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Magnum: "So they dump at the proper time since they have their "food at the proper time"?"
Technically, the GB poops in order to provide JWs "food at the proper time". Magazines aren't just printed, they're loaves pinched off. The videos aren't produced, they're defecated. Talk outlines aren't written and presented, they're dumped and flushed straight out to the "friends".
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"If Jehovah can bring his A-game and destroy everything then why not just make the wicked disappear and be done with it?"
LOL. Just go back and reread about the OT Jehovah that couldn't destroy other nations without killing a bunch of his own. In his A-game, he was afraid of chariots with iron wheels. So it's logical to conclude that an OT WT god will drop rocks from the sky at the big A, but he'll probably take out plenty of JWs along with them, and he can't be bothered with the clean-up. Besides, he'll probably instruct the survivors to collect the jewelry and gold teeth before burying.
"Don't tell Jehovah, but we're going to use corpse jewelry to make a golden calf to name after him!"
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exJW Psychology 103--Let's Reconsider "Confidentiality"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inover the course of decades as a jw, an elder, a bethelite, then learning ttatt and wanting to leave, i'd collected a lot of insight into the power of "confidentiality.
" although the confidentiality in a judicial hearing is supposedly to protect the sinner, in actuality, i saw that it was about control and was protecting the power of the jc.. i didn't use any of this knowledge until i was called before the boe because the other elders figured they had grounds to remove me as an elder.
it was a work situation that only lasted a matter of hours, but it was enough that they seized the moment.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
problemaddict, Elders like that expect that anyone they target should cower in fear and not dare to speak up for themselves. And while elders are eager to be blabbermouths, they expect complete control of the information as they fleece the sheeple. They were windbags... you were the needle. Very well handled on your part, I must say.
JWdaughter, The elders will pick and choose whatever reasoning they want in order to do whatever they want. These "accusers" have no interest in doing what is right, or even what is scriptural. Typically, they are the type that want to bring others down in order to bring themselves up.
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The Sept 15 WT " Are You Convinced That You Have The Truth? Why?
by BluesBrother inthis article title leapt out at me and i thought that at last we may see some solid argument as to why the wt teaches what it does, some "reasoning on the scriptures ".. well... the theme scripture set a good scene, being rom 12.2 " prove to yourself the good and acceptable and perfect will of god" .
ok , let's prove it - logically.. the article starts by citing the witnesses neutrality and refusal to bear arms as a reason to believe.
now i happen to agree with that stand , but is it unique to j w's ?
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
"Next we discuss at length "The greatest educational work in history""
Pfft. It's truly become the greatest dumbing-down work in history. Now that I have improved my education, I realize how JWs don't really have thinking or problem-solving skills. Those things are discouraged by the WT mantra, "listen, obey, and be depressed." There's no room for research, think, discuss freely, and grow.
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Seriously considering stepping down as Elder
by fader77 ini have been an elder for 6 years.
it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.
i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Fader: "I'm to the point now that I can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family."
That sounds like a great reason to step down. Otherwise, as was my case, they seized on the slightest reason and removed me. Things got interesting since I had plenty against them and wasn't "confidential" about it.
It sounds like you've got your career in order. That's a very good thing. If it came to it, could your wife support herself?
And regarding your marriage, my advice would be that if you decide that your marriage isn't worth saving, don't rush into a new relationship. Give yourself some time to adjust to freedom from the cult and find the real you. Then you will be in a better position to understand what you want from the next.
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The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.
by truthwillsetyoufree inplease spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.
i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.
every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
villiagegirl,
Um, you realize it's not the gay guys that are getting these women pregnant, right?
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37 years later, I finally got the CULT thing
by Freedom77 inhi all, just happened to come across this site again after 10 or 12 years - i see some old posts of mine under a diff username (can't reopen the account, forgot the freakin' password).
i left the borg in 1977, age 21, haven't looked back but every now and then i am amazed to find there's some old, old attitude from the jw days that i find is still clinging to my pants leg like a stray sticker.. looking over some of the posts here and some linked ex-jw sites yesterday it finally hit me - it is an effing cult.
when i was in, we were always accused of being that, so naturally we totally spouted the society's line and got all defensive, etc.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome!
